Name Dropping - What's In A Name? Who Is Bangsy?

75

By Sue Adams

me - photo by my mother Ata Kando
See all 5 photos
me - photo by my mother Ata Kando

Is Name Dropping really necessary? How do we put value on fashion, art, literature and design? By their inherent quality of craftsmanship, beauty and meaning, or do we rather evaluate art by name dropping a famous person as its creator? Should content be freely contributed to a rapidly emerging global consciousness or should we, the creators of Internet content, cling on to private ownership with copyright? There is a lot of debate on the Internet about common domain, open source free software, collective creativity, and above all about people ripping each other off when they are not supposed to. This true story about my mother, the now famous photographer Ata Kando, questions such issues from two opposing views.

What's in a Name?

Ever since we were children my mother had a stamp for the back of every photograph she printed in the dark room that said: Copyright Ata Kando, with her address and telephone number, and then she had a second stamp, a red one, larger than the first one that said in capital letters: “MENTION NAME”. It so often happened that newspapers would use her pictures and failed to give due credit. I understand that, as a single mother with three kids to raise, Ata needed to promote herself to get more work, obviously. But despite the big red letters on the stamp we were still as poor as rats, always on the bread line.

One of Ata's grandchildren Tomi. Photo by James Casey
One of Ata's grandchildren Tomi. Photo by James Casey

An exhibition showing the pictures from Ata Kando's new photo book opened on the 5th June 2008 at the Hub Gallery in Amsterdam. Ata gave a ten-minute talk to 300 people. At the same event, she signed vintage prints which were auctioned to the tune of ten thousand euros a piece for animal welfare. Ata was exhausted but very happy. Until she had a closer look at the new book and started finding faults. One of which was that they had failed to mention my name as the translator of the text from Dutch into English. She was so upset and angry about this that she told me she would tell the publisher that from now on she insists on signing a contract giving her the right to verify corrections prior to future reprints. “And if they don’t agree?” I asked. “Well then I shall not permit them to do any further print runs of my books!” I very much doubted if she was in a position to do so, but my determined mother who now sees herself as the diva of Dutch photography, seemed adamant.

I don’t like the element of pride, ego, self-centeredness and false superiority that comes with fame. And the endless game of name dropping, the desperate urge for people, like ants around the honey, to be connected to fame. Even some of our family members who previously never gave her the time of day now rush to openings of her exhibitions because she is now a celebrity. I don’t like Ata’s own pride in having lunch with the prince of Holland or her even greater pride in being a personal friend of the former Hungarian president.

One morning at the breakfast table I asked her: “Who is more important to your daily existence, the milkman who delivers your milk in the freezing rain at six o’clock every morning or the Hungarian president?”

Now I personally don’t mind if my name is not mentioned for doing this translation. Achilles’ Cools' original text is strong and informative. It was interesting to get into another author’s head and try to convey his style and meaning in a different language. I enjoyed doing the work and I learned from it. The publishers were happy with the result and thanked me profusely for doing such a good job for no fee. I donated my fee to the cause of the animals, to the success of my mother's new book.

Bangsy's grafiti on the wall between Israel and Palestine
Bangsy's grafiti on the wall between Israel and Palestine

A well-known graffiti artist pseudo-named Banksy has created politically relevant pictures on walls and bridges all over the world, from London and New York to Paris and Israel. He has clandestinely hung his own paintings in the Louvres next to the Mona Lisa, then recorded the time it took for his pictures to be removed, between a few days to a few weeks!

There are well illustrated books about Banksy. But nobody knows who he is. He has to hide from the law because graffiti art is illegal. Why is Banksy so popular? Because he is anonymous. He could be any of us, the voice of an unknown majority. As Banksy shows in some of his work, cavemen did not sign their pictures, yet we can still admire some beautiful thousands of years old cave paintings today.

The Vintage Book of Contemporary American Short Stories
Amazon Price: $5.00
List Price: $16.00
The Little Guide to Vintage Shopping
Amazon Price: $9.19
List Price: $18.95

Art Versus Money

The insanity that goes on about names, labels, trademarks, in short, the ownership and commercialisation of creativity is not art worthy.

An unknown composer wrote my very favourite guitar tune. Here we meet the borderline between folk art and high art. I personally think that high art stinks of money.

Pure art is the product of free, creative expression. Ok, professional artists need to make a living like everyone else, but collectors' speculation in art is an antithesis. Art and greed don't match. People, at the folk level, sing and dance (perform art) to forget their monetary problems.

Vincent Van Gogh's Sunflowers Painting
Vincent Van Gogh's Sunflowers Painting

What’s in a name? Surely it is the product that matters, not who created it. Van Gogh’s sunflowers? Yes, not a bad painting but would it fetch millions had it not been signed?

An artist once said to me at an exhibition: “I do not boast about my work, I prefer it when other people talk about it in praise.” Unfortunately such artists are few and far between. Most successful artists lack humility and have got to where they are by being primarily bullshit artists. Name dropping attracts snobbism. “Who’s that?” the famous people say disdainfully when someone less famous is among them. If that person is less famous, then that person is surely a worthless nobody.

When you are famous and you do something wrong you live to regret it, you become infamous. As an author I wrote, at a certain time in my life, something I then believed to be the truth. But ten or fifteen years later I no longer believe that what I wrote then is true now, I changed my mind, moved on. But the books are still on the shelves, signed with my name saying things that I now no longer agree with. Now that is inconveniently embarrassing. Had I not had my name on the book it would not have mattered. Pseudonyms may be a form of copyleft.


There is something on the Internet called “copyleft” as opposed to “copyright” whereby the creators of music, art, animation and literature donate their work to the world without claiming any credit or copyright. Now that sort of thing is more in line with Carl Gustav Jung’s ideas of a collective consciousness and, to me, a much more appealing approach.

Ata at 95
Ata at 95

Back to Ata’s stamp on the back of her photographs, one could wonder whether copyleft prevents making a decent living. I don’t think so. Most people get by; especially if they are allowed to occupy themselves with things they enjoy doing and things that they are good at. The very essence of art is against all the nonsense flustering around celebrities, big names like v.i.p.’s, stars, royalty, false exclusivity, and superiority, fashion fads, and above all, speculation and greed. Good art suggests new ways towards some form of positive advancement of the human condition. Copyleft undresses art to its naked truth, to its own worth for what it is without the hype. In the context of this article, the auctioning of vintage prints took advantage of the greed factor for a good cause, but ask yourself: what does the public want to buy? A beautiful picture or the value the picture can gain if signed by a famous photographer? The latter product, the one with the signature is still the same picture but it has ceased to be pure art. It has now become a gambling commodity.

The product is the contribution. The product is what matters. The product adds to culture. Not the name of the individual character who made or invented it. A name is a reference only to a person at a certain time. Names help write history but what do they do for the future? When I was in primary school in France I was told that Napoleon was a hero. A few years later in secondary school in Holland, I was told that Napoleon was a tyrant. At twelve years of age I became utterly confused and began to suspect that history is a simplified, manipulated, biased and corrupt description of the past. Jane d’Arc, Charlemagne, Einstein, Da Vinci, Picasso, Robert Capa, Ata Kando. What about Mother Teresa, the saints, and Jesus, for Christ’s sake. If Jesus had not had a name women might not have been burned alive in the name of Christianity.

Photography: The 50 Most Influential Photographers of All Time (Icons of Culture)
Amazon Price: $8.51
List Price: $14.99
Faceless: The Most Famous Photographer in the World
Amazon Price: $7.46
List Price: $20.00
Henri Cartier-Bresson: Photographer
Amazon Price: $63.33
List Price: $125.00
Annie Leibovitz at Work
Amazon Price: $21.28
List Price: $40.00
50 Photographers You Should Know
Amazon Price: $8.64
List Price: $19.95
Lucy and Eva Gabor
Amazon Price: $0.49
The Fein Story Behind the Pictures: A Revealing Look at the Famous Images of Pulitzer Prize Photographer Nat Fein
Amazon Price: $21.30
List Price: $29.95
Portraits
Amazon Price: $11.85
List Price: $22.95

I realise that my lament about name dropping cannot be a generalisation. There are different reasons for being famous and fame involves many different personalities. But I think I am mostly against the demand, the exigency for fame. Who needs glory, medals and applause? Are they to encourage others to become famous? Some famous people are true role models of virtue and skill. But could it perhaps be that only very insecure people demand fame? To make sure to themselves that they exist, and, understandably at Ata’s ripe old age of 96, she wants to be remembered beyond the approaching disappearance of her physical existence.

Times Are Changing

Any Internet content will only survive for the time it is being promoted on the Internet. When you stop promoting a website it will soon drop into the no-follow dungeons, dissappear off the face of the ether and become obsolete regardless of its artistic or scientific merit. All internet content is therefore ephemeral and the names of the creators no longer matters. All they can hope for is that their ideas have been read by enough people, that their ideas have somehow infiltrated the brains of their readers.

The everlasting effect of a piece of work therefore becomes a part of the world pool of shared knowledge (collective consciousness) rather than a precious piece of canvas hanging in the Louvres or a Dostoevsky novel reprinted over centuries to come. With the Internet, Classicism can no longer grow.

So listen mother Ata: Never mind about the size of the credit. What matters is the book, the cause (in this case the animals) and the future. You and your oeuvre will change the minds of your public. And this change will affect the next generation and so on and so forth. Your unique contribution counts forever. In the great scheme of things any ripple of positive change is immortal regardless of a name. What really matters is: how can we together make the present fiasco of our world change for the better.

You too can JOIN HUBPAGES and get paid for what you've got to say.

How do you feel about copyright ownership of your written material? Do you agree or disagree with the notion that what we contribute to the Internet should be freely available for all to share and enjoy without having to pay for it? Put your thoughts in a comment. :)

Comments

Catherine R profile image

Catherine R 2 years ago

What a fantastic hub! I love your mum. I understand where she is coming from. She has worked hard and why shouldn't here name be up there equal. On the other hand I take your point too. I have heard of Bangsy - I think a lot of the appeal comes from the speculation around exactly who this individual is and where will they pop up next. It is the mystery that fascinates as well as the art. Very thought provoking.

Sue Adams profile image

Sue Adams Hub Author 2 years ago

Thank you Catherine. I Like your choice of topics with designer down belows, healthy foods and beach boxes. I lived on the I.O.W. for a while and am familiar with Osbourne House and the tremendous amount of junk Queen Victoria collected.

Sue Adams profile image

Sue Adams Hub Author 2 years ago

My old mother Ata (96) read this article and we had the following Skype conversation about it:

ATA

If Mother Teresa had no name how would we remember her?

SUE

The people she helped remember her.

ATA

But without her name, Mother Teresa would never have been such an inspiration to so many people.

SUE

Point taken.

ATA

How would we know the music of Mozart without his name?

SUE

By Title?

ATA

Perhaps if people had numbers instead of names the snobbish clinging onto fame and self-promoting name dropping would diminish?

SUE

I don't think that would work. It's easier to remember a name than a number.

ATA

A name is a reference. History could not exist without names.

SUE

OK mum, thank you for the lesson.

And a few days later, my mentor brother Tom who lives in the States had skyped Ata in Holland about Name Dropping and skyped me to say:

TOM

So you don't care about your name being mentioned, that is very noble of you Sue. After all, no-one knows who designed the Pyramids or Notre Dame. As for myself, I still like to be invited to talk on television as Dr. Tom Kando.

SUE

Of course, especially when it pays the rent.

Thank you both Tom and Ata for setting me straight. Ata has always been the great communicator in our family. She has kept us together. And when she has a point she won't let go. She says it is a sin not to rebel when you feel something is wrong. Ata says: "It is selfish not to react."

Sue Adams profile image

Sue Adams Hub Author 2 years ago

Name Dropping Skype conversation with my sister Madeleine

Sue: What r u doin

Madeleine: Reading your article

Sue: Oh ok

Madeleine: I think you have a point and so does Ata

Sue: Yes

Madeleine: Maybe we should all have numbers. “Hi 12456897685443 how r u?”

Sue: Very well, thanks 2395686759540987xxxx

Madeleine: Wouldn’t work would it

Sue: Nope

Madeleine: Some societies don’t have names. In fact Ata told us.

Sue: Really?

Madeleine: A name is sacred and it is bad luck to mention someone’s name in some societies.

Sue: Oh so why do they have names?

Madeleine: Dunno, maybe to communicate with spirits?

Sue: ic. So how do they find each other, by smell?

Madeleine: Haha, no, I think by description: “Small Woman With Big Feet”

Sue: I see, or by occupation, like Mr. Baker, Smith, etc

Madeleine: Napoleon introduced last names. Before that they didnt exist.

Sue: Did he really?

Madeleine: He instated a kind of cadaster so people had to invent names for themselves.

Sue: Cadaster?

Madeleine: Population counting, census. As an emperor, Napoleon needed a census. He started it.

Sue: Control freak

Madeleine: lol. And the Germans abused it. That is how they found all the Jews in a nation. So now the authorities are more careful with strict rules of disclosure.

Sue: Aha. But licking to fame is really what this article is about.

Madeleine: Yes that’s different. I didn’t understand the title: Name Dropping ”Oops I dropped my name, hope it’s not broken?"

Sue: No, name dropping is when you are at a party and drop famous names into your conversation mentioning that you personally know those famous people. like.. "As my friend Julia Roberts said last night to me on the phone... blah blah blah"

Madeleine: Ah ic. I don’t think we use that expression in the US, but i might be wrong.

Sue: Maybe I should change the title to "Fame Licking"

Madeleine: No. You mean you actually TALKED to 12384657q376? wow!

Sue: Sure, I see him every week at the 6758607'05947 club

Madeleine: Haha

Sue: No, Ata, that would definitely not work with the numbers.

Sue: With your permission Madeleine, I'm copying this entire skype conversation as a comment to the article on Name Dropping.

Madeleine: have fun

Sue: Should make interesting reading.

Donovan 2 years ago

I find this article really interesting. And all the comments in the skype conversations add to the debate. Great reading!

Sue Adams profile image

Sue Adams Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for you comment Donovan, glad you enjoyed it.

RenateBear 15 months ago

I can feel what you are saying about name dropping for prestige but don't be so hard on your mother, she means well. A bit of ego can go a long way to keep her going at her advanced age of 97.

Sue Adams profile image

Sue Adams Hub Author 15 months ago

OK Renate, I shall forgive her for her magnified ego. My mum probably needs it at her age, you are right. Making me feel all guilty now.

Submit a Comment
Members and Guests

Sign in or sign up and post using a hubpages account.



    • No HTML is allowed in comments, but URLs will be hyperlinked
    • Comments are not for promoting your Hubs or other sites

    • Iceland Shows How to Beat Economic Crisis

      Unlike the rest of us, stuck in the EU financial crisis like lame sheep,the people of Iceland said “No”. The people of Iceland took non-violent action and they won the battle against corporate crime. If they could do it, why can't we all? - 2 days ago

    • Backache When Driving Your Car? Prevention And Cure

      How to prevent and cure chronic back pain caused by the way you drive your car. These simple observational considerations can help recognise and correct damaging driving positions and movement habits to avoid back pain in, or out of the car for ever. - 10 days ago

    • What Is Choreology?

      Choreology is the aesthetic and scientific study of all forms of human movement by Benesh Movement Notation. What IS Benesh Movement Notation? How does it work? - 2 weeks ago

    Please wait working